Comments on: Are climate change and global warming dangerous distractions?

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Sun, 23 May 2010 00:08:46 +0000

Ned…it seems Rudd and his G-20 mates have forgotten all about the promises they were making. So I wonder where global warming is now on Rudd’s list of things to do?

By: Ned S

Ned S — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:18:11 +0000

A good result I’d say!

PS: A somewhat introspective chap who was wrong on WMD in Iraq, pink batts and climate change, might be starting to feel he was an embarrassment to himself. Wonder if Rudd has an ounce of introspectivity in his bones?

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:34:34 +0000

Well it looks like the ETS is on the back-burner. It seems global warming is not so urgent now in Rudd’s world? See: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/kevin-rudd-delays-emissions-trading-scheme-until-kyoto-expires-in-2012/story-e6frg6xf-1225858894753

Amazing, a few years ago people like me who questioned the science behind global warming were told we were endangering the planet and action has to be taken now. But today it seems that when Rudd said in 2007 that urgent action was required, that was only for election purposes. Or maybe in Rudd’s world urgent means action in 5 years? (that would make sense, as his urgent health reforms promised in 2007 also seems to be years away from seeing the light of day)

The whole climate change/global warming scare campaign is in complete tatters.

By: Ned S

Ned S — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:46:04 +0000

If I was trying to look ahead to the end of the century to find things to worry about Greg, I’d probably be thinking more in terms of possible overpopulation problems and becoming resource constrained than worrying about the possibility the climate may change and that could make some people sad and others happy.

I think we agree we agree on this one!

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:26:34 +0000

That’s it Ned The seas will rise and gloom will grip the planet. Of course the planet has been warmer before like during middle ages and humankind did just fine, but apparently this time the warming is all caused by nasty CO2 and we will be unble to cope.

So you either sign up to Al Gore’s version of events (a man who has no science background at all) or you are an evil, planet hating, global warming denier. (although these days the term is “climate change” as that pretty much covers anything, including the option to revise the story if temperatures actually fall)

It’s a funny world

By: Ned S

Ned S — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:49:51 +0000

Remind me again Greg, what are the catastrophic effects of all of this – Something along the lines that the planet gets warmer so bad arsed places like Siberia become nicer and Oz maybe goes back to the dinosaur days when lifeforms larger than marsupial mice could inhabit the interior. But if you’ve bought a canal block on the Gold Coast you’ll be pissed because the sea level is gunna go up. So you’ll have to try to be as smart as the average Dutchman if you want to continue to live there?

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:06:35 +0000

Here is an interesting piece by Richard S. Lindzen, a professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the US.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/alarmists-keep-ringing-the-bell/story-e6frg6zo-1225857624661

Of course you will still get plenty of journalists with no science background at all saying that the scientific community support the science behind AGW, but the reality is that this is simply no true.

Let’s keep the debate alive I say!

By: Ned S

Ned S — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 06:16:20 +0000

Geoff is probably right. Although it’s not the vote getter it was before Copenhagen I guess. With health obviously being the big issue that Rudd reckons will win him lots of brownie points and not upset anyone. Curious one though – In that it’s possible that’s why he’s having to release the KHR – The states wanted to know about that before agreeing to the health funding stuff. And he’s pretty much just said the plan is to get the loot from the miners.

By: Geoff Brown

Geoff Brown — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:59:00 +0000

When you least expect it, it will be back. If Rudd wins a double dissolution, it will be re-inreoduced and probably, this time, the Green will support it. The rates ere not in the bill but in the regulations. After it is through the rates can be jacked up to Green levels.

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 01:38:44 +0000

Amazing how what Rudd called “the greatest moral challenge of our time” seems to have dropped off the radar. Maybe health reform is now a dangerous distraction?

By: Senator13

Senator13 — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:55:07 +0000

This was a good interview on the ABC a few days ago:

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2010/s2810791.htm

I think it goes to show that the Government can’t explain the cost of its ETS and that it is a do nothing policy. It has been years coming, but people are finally starting to ask how much will it cost.

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:16:15 +0000

Here an an interesting article on climate change issues that focus more on some facts than on hype. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/dont-count-your-trees-forests-arent-that-green/story-e6frg6zo-1225826508034

As I have been saying for years now, technology is the way forward not taxes. We need to adapt if global warming is a problem and I can’t think of a single event in world history where humankind has advanced because a new complicated tax was introduced.

By: Ned S

Ned S — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:36:51 +0000

Maybe Krudd and Pwong could coauthor a book on it – In Mandarin to help convince the Chinese impending holocaust recalcitrants?

By: Senator13

Senator13 — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:23:47 +0000

I think Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong are the only ones in denial.

Denial about COP15, denial about the science, denial about the solution.

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:05:32 +0000

Maybe the press are ducking for cover after helping support the global warming fear campaign which is now starting to fall apart. Thankfully The Australian newspaper has been one of the few voices of reason and has been highlighting the IPCC’s very deniable science. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/climate-science-on-thin-ice/story-e6frg6z6-1225820985361

So Kevin Rudd reckons the science behind global warming is undeniable hey? Well not only is it deniable, but aspects of it have be proven to be based on no research at all!

Kev07 might like to throw insults at “deniers” but as least they are not as gullible as he appears to me.

By: Geoff Brown

Geoff Brown — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:57:59 +0000

Sorry about a little incorrect info.

Lord Monckton has been bumped from above from the main (TV) interview but will speak to the National Press Club from 3pm.

Probably the only press left will be in their cups.

Such is the power of the Gorian Movement.

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:54:29 +0000

I hope the visit by Chris Monckton will help balance the global warming debate in Australia. Will Rudd have the courage to debate Monckton or call label him a “denier” to his face? Me thinks not.

By: Senator13

Senator13 — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:17:30 +0000

Thanks Geoff – I will I will defiantly tune in!

By: Geoff Brown

Geoff Brown — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:56:02 +0000

G’day Greg

Nat Press Club confirmed for the Wednesday – will be interested in the questions after his address.

http://agmates.ning.com/group/climatscepticsparty/forum/topics/lord-moncktons-tour-of

By: Greg Atkinson

Greg Atkinson — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:08:36 +0000

Geoff if the ABC or National Press Club really interested in hearing the other side of the global warming debate?